Kaylorin: Thanks to everyone for making the meeting. Another small agenda so should be fairly quick. Afterwards we will hope to run an epic battle, preferably the 6 man.
Kaylorin: Firstly Turbine have suggested to people that if you have the Pando Media Booster installed you should uninstall it immediately. Unfortunately they didn't say very much about what Pando is, how to find it or why you should remove it. So here are the missing details.
Kaylorin: Long time installations of LoTRO may have Pando Media Booster installed. It is a download client which is used the first time someone installed LoTRO and then never again. Using peer-to-peer networking technology, essentially bittorrent, it speeded up the initial download. Turbine have not used it for some years and now use Happy Cloud instead or Steam.
Kaylorin: I started playing over 3 years ago and I had Pando installed. It was a hideous buggy and bandwidth using piece of software that used to stay in memory and consume resources even though after the first download you never needed it again for LoTRO. I blocked it on the firewall from communicating with homebase long ago.
Kaylorin: Which turns out to be a good thing. Pando shut down over a year ago but the software and the domains associated are now in the hands of Malware providers. This week Pando started asking to update itself, an update which was malware and could seriously damage your machine.
Kaylorin: So if you installed LoTRO more than a couple of years ago, check your list of Installed Programs under Windows and if you find Pando Media Booster listed be sure and remove it immediately. It won't affect your LoTRO install in any way. It is now malicious software and should not have any access to your machine or network. Be sure and remove it :)
Kaylorin: It would of course have been nice if Turbine could have given us an explanation for removing it but if you were interested or curious, that is the reason and should encourage you to make sure your computer is safe.
Cait: start / control panel / add remove programs / the list you'll see there is generally in alphabetical order.
Kaylorin: Back now to kin information now. We used to run Warband hunting regularly on Sunday nights but stopped it after poor attendence. We then resumed again when Helms Deep launched and initially got a good turn out and took down all the HD warbands. Lately we have mostly restricted ourselves to the fellowship ones and if turn out declines further we will be left on the solo ones.
Kaylorin: This reaises two questions. Should we continue at all with Warband Hunting? There is very little group content with HD and I think it generally important for our sense of unity as a kinship that we do as much of it as possible alongside kin mates.
Kaylorin: However I know a lot of people do them in their own time daily for the first few weeks, and form spontaneous groups to do the raid ones, then pretty much stop doing warbands once they have got the main loot they want.
Kaylorin: And if we don't do warbands then, the question is what else we should offer. We have tried a variety of things on Sundays over the years including skirmishes, low level instance and max level instances. All of these have not got a good turn out. There are only two days a week when most people are available so it seems wrong to ignore weekends.
Bowdozer: you know what would be fun...if we grouped up and lvl toons together from the start
Bowdozer: skip no content
Bowdozer: do it all
Kaylorin: We could do that.. especially as raids can now quest.. it would certain please the completionists. However all the chars would require a stone of tortoise to avoid outlevelling some of the content which could make it expensive.
Bowdozer: well as a full group
Bowdozer: wouldnt xp be lowered
Bowdozer: and just make sure no one uses the xp bonus pocket pieces
Bowdozer: possibly make new accounts so we are f2p?
Bowdozer: and unlock it as we go :)
Bowdozer: that way no one gets rest xp either
Cait: that could be interesting...and do all the on level virtues too?
Bowdozer: and before we go to bree
Bowdozer: we do ALL 3 starter zones
Bowdozer: to completion
Nephelli: What is completion?
Bowdozer: EVERY quest!
Bowdozer: and deed!
Bowdozer: to be fair though
Bowdozer: it seems like a lot
Kaylorin: The only issue I can see with that is that it would be very bitty because one zone doesnt give enough tp to unlock the next. So there would be lots of extra grinding before people could progress. Having done it that way in the past I speak from experience. I ground about 15,000 tp before I became VIP and had unlocked all the quest content.
Bowdozer: but we'll only be doing it on sundays
Kaylorin: As there is interest though I think we will be willing to pursue it and see what happens. We will talk and see about doing something like that for a future Sunday. Though if people are grinding deeds on Sunday it might make them less enthusiastic for deed nights on Tuesday.
Bowdozer: just a suggestion :) good bonding!
Nephelli: I'm game
Saranada: I enjoy the Tuesday. Sunday for me is usually busy
Cait: I am too. but those of us that are VIP would have to make a 2nd account so as to not have the rested exp bonus...but that means early on we would have to definitely complete lots of deeds to buy the next zones...since we couldn't expect everyone to buy tp to do that
Bowdozer: we'd spend no money
Bowdozer: it'd be grindy..but grindy together :P
Kopeland: grinding is, well, grinding. I'd love a chance to run instances at level.
Cait: and we would also have to agree on zones, as there would also need to be things bought like currency caps and bags
Saranada: grind away !
Bowdozer: ./me drools over GA on level!
Cait: would we want to set maybe 3 hours on sundays for that? so say an hour earlier than normal events?
Bowdozer: for sure
Cait: Ok. I'll set it for sunday after this one...so 9 days from today
Dacmona: Would we try to plan out what classes everyone rolled? Or just wait and end up with like 5 champs or something?
Bowdozer: meh just wait and see
Bowdozer: more fun that way!
Bowdozer: with 5 champs we wont needs heals :p
Cait: cappies would be better, I think
Bowdozer: ohh 5 cappies!
Cait: but, there is no way in the 9 hades I'm leveling another cappy
Cait: I'll probably go RK as I don't have one that leave the bank